We have been pretty quiet here lately and when I saw this topic pop up on another tribe and saw some of the responses to it, it got me thinking. Here is a link to the starting thread astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b...841c58755 and a copy of the original post and my responses and the particular posts that resonated with me;

"It seems that every single Sagittarius I have ever met has an issue with honesty. They either struggle with being honest with other people, with themselves, or both. It seems like truth/honesty is an elusive concept for them and they have a difficult time grasping it or offering it to others. Help me understand this.
posted by:
Vineet"
The post that caught my attention and made me think was this one;

"Wow, that was a lot of good information. The dishonesty I've experienced is that they often hide their true thoughts and emotions. It's not that they say things that are untrue, it's that they strongly resist saying the things that are true. It might be more fair to say that I've experienced their struggle with being more than I flat out dishonesty. To me though, these are two very closely related issues, oppenness and honesty. Telling a lie and hiding the truth are not so far apart." also by the author of the original post.

The following responses are mine;

Re: Sagittarius and Honesty!?
Yesterday, 12:23 PM
Wow did this post ever resonate with me. I have a 4th house Moon conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius and I also have a 9th House Sun, Mercury and Chiron so I feel like I have a good grasp of Sagittarian energy. Everything you said pretty much describes me. I do not like to outwardly lie, it feels ugly to me, and while I agree that the difference between telling a lie and keeping the truth to myself are not that far off from one another, I still feel that there is a difference none the less. Maybe this is me just justifying or rationalizing my actions, but once those thoughts leave my head and enter the material world...they change. It's like they are granted more power, they become real, no longer just thought. Sorry if this doesn't make much sense, it's just always been a struggle I have, the decision to know what to put out there and what to keep to myself. If I verbalize it, chances are it's as honest as I percieve it to be, the problem is never with what I say, it's with what I don't say...
Nicole

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Re: Sagittarius and Honesty!?
Yesterday, 1:06 PM
you're right, and I should know better than to use absolutes, it would have just been better to say that "the problem isn't with what I say, it's with what I don't say" at least then it's open ended lol and I can always back track later and say "well I never said never or always"

lastly there was one other post that also seemed to hit home for me, and it was this one;
"In my experience, Sag's lie, but they do it because they don't want to hurt you.
And, if you corner them, they fess up.
Then they fess up everything, and get defensive.
But, anyway, they will tell the truth if you ask them directly.
And, it might be a lot of stored up truths."

All this spurned a discussion between me and someone close to me where I tried to explain to them my train of thought on what I say vs what I leave unsaid. My thoughts are that once it leaves the safety of my mind it can't be taken back, you can never truly unsay what has been said, and thoughts can be modified safely internally. So I keep a lot of larger percieved truths to myself because I cant see hurting someone when there is a chance I could process it more and then have it be changed in the end anyway. I was never sure if this was my Virgo Rising's detail oriented side or not, but it just struck me to see that it might just be a Sagittarian trait.
Anyone care to jump in about honesty and what you are willing to share with others and how you decide what to keep to yourself? Thanks in advance and I hope this isn't too confusing.
Nicole